oakland should really be ashamedded of themselves. this is one of the best schools and one of the best things that happened to oakland, and how is it they are wanting to close our school? john: they are not just capricious, but they are threatened, and chavez did things that might have broken the rules that he made money. >> yeah. there's a lot of accusations. ben may be a deeply flawed map, but the school's work, and that's what the parents are fighting for, and that's what we all want. we want the very best education for the kids, and that's what gets lost in the argument. john: the kids went on to good colleges, berkeley? >> yes, three graduated from those schools in three years, from berkley. john: because of the training at american indian? >> yes, sir because of the emphasis on math and literature. spent so much time in the classes, and they finished their ap, their college level courses in high school. john: they do a good job. kennedy concludes a reason they want to close the school is they just don't like ben. this man helps